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\nNewswoman: “Where is the following quote taken from: ‘Palestine’s war ended with a catastrophe that is unprecedented in history. Gangs stole Palestine and expelled its people from their cities, their villages, their lands and their houses, and established the State of Israel.?' The answer is both simple and frustrating: the new Palestinian Authority schoolbooks for grade 2. Welcome Itamar Marcus, the director of Palestinian Media Watch.”
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\nItamar Marcus: “Hi. It’s grade 12.”
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\nNewswoman : “Grade 12… you’re right, my mistake. You put together a very extensive report you presented today, which deals with the textbooks, schoolbooks, and the role of incitement that the children are studying in the Palestinian Authority. And your conclusions are dismal because the bottom line is that basically they live in a world where Israel, the state, part of which is the Palestinian Authority that is recognized and spoken with, does not exist.”
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\nMarcus: “Yes, there are two serious problems here. On one hand, they are building for their children the image of a state that does not exist. On the maps, Israel does not exist, Palestine appears instead of Israel. But even in the texts that talk about the region, it says for example that the state of Palestine has access to the Mediterranean Sea and also to the Red Sea. And the word is “state” – Da’ula – so they are building, on one hand, a state, Palestine, that erases and exchanges Israel.”
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\nNewswoman: “…the existence of Israel. Israel does not exist.”
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\nMarcus: “Yes. On the other hand, when they talk about Israel, there is a denial of Israel’s right to exist, such as what you just read. Israel is defined as the one who stole Palestine… It deals with the Israeli occupation, we define it as the occupation since 67, they define all of Israel from 48 as the occupation, as the ‘Zionist entity,’ the ‘enemy entity.’ All of this is in the new schoolbooks that were released a number of months ago to grade 12 in the Palestinian Authority.”
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\nNewswoman: “Do you see any difference in the schoolbooks, becoming more extreme, or is this an ongoing trend?”
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\nMarcus: “It is becoming more extreme. It was a trend but it’s becoming more extreme. One of the most serious extreme points is the definition of the conflict with Israel, the struggle with Israel, now, as a religious conflict, an Islamic conflict. The conflict is referred to as ‘Ribat.’ Ribat is defined as a part of Jihad, and the people of Palestine are in the most important Ribat of all…”
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\nNewswoman: “And this, you say, is a new element that did not exist in the past years.”
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\nMarcus: “It did, but was very minor. Now, they simply emphasize it, and furthermore they say that the Ribat of the people of Palestine is one of the most important ones and will not end until the day of the resurrection of the dead. This means that there is an eternal existential struggle against the existence of Israel, not on a national basis, but a religious basis. Islam commands them to defend Islamic land. This is, in fact, Hamas ideology incorporated into the Palestinian schoolbooks…”
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\nNewswoman: “This is the official line.”
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\nMarcus: “It is the official line [in the schoolbooks] written by Fatah personnel.”
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\nNewswoman: “Okay, so we will continue to deal with this political point in this matter. Ohad Chemo, our reporter in the [Palestinian] territories was in Bethlehem, and listened to Palestinian students. Let’s listen to this.”
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\n[Ohad Chemo report]
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\nOhad Chemo: “Do you have a map of the Middle East?”
\nFirst Palestinian woman: “This is the map of the Middle East.”
\nOhad Chemo: “But Israel doesn’t appear here.”
\nFirst Palestinian woman: “Israel isn’t here. Good, this is what I’m telling you.”
\nOhad Chemo: “How do you want to be our neighbors if Israel isn’t here?”
\nFirst Palestinian woman: “You want us to be your neighbors? But this land is our land.”
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\nOhad Chemo: “Does Israel appear in the maps in the books?”
\nSecond Palestinian woman: “Of course not, we’re Palestinians, we don’t recognize Israel… In your maps it appears but us Palestinians have a map called ‘the map of Palestine,’ not ‘the map of Israel’.”
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\n[Back in the newsroom]
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\nNewswoman: “The education, there is the sector element, that is a more secular education for those who identify, those who have secular schools, and the education in Hamas schools. And you say that the lines are becoming blurred in terms of what appears in the schoolbooks.”
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\nMarcus: “There are no secular schools, even in all the schools in the Palestinian Authority, ever since the Palestinian Authority was established. They also have Islamic education.”
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\nNewswoman: “But there still are differences between those schools and the Hamas schools, I assume.”
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\nMarcus: “Yes, there is a difference in the extremism. But what I am explaining now is that even the schoolbooks that are in the UN schools and in the Palestinian Authority, not Hamas, they are now becoming more extreme in the religious subject, so that now they are referring to Israel as Islamic, as an Islamic territory, as an Islamic trust. So that once it is [defined as] an Islamic territory, the youth is not given the possibility to accept Israel, because then they’ll have to give up their Islamism.”
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\nNewswoman: “So that the religious foundation that is strongly established, and politics is built inside it and there is no way out, because if there was a way out, in fact, you gave up your Islamic essence.”
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\nMarcus: “As long as it is a territorial conflict, we can concede, they can concede. But if it is a conflict for Allah, you are not allowed to concede. By the way, the students were asked if they recognize Israel, a survey that was published about three weeks ago, a survey of a Palestinian institute. And they asked people the simple question ‘Do you recognize Israel?’ So the youngest group of people, 18 to 25 years old, who are a result of this education, the result was 86 to 93 percent that do not recognize Israel. An average of 90 percent does not recognize Israel within the youngest group that went through this education.”
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\nNewswoman: “Itamar Marcus, thank you very much for these simple statistics.”
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\nMarcus: “Thank you.”","author":[{"name":{"en":"channel 1","he":""},"about":"","citeName":{"en":"Channel 1.","he":""},"id":110}],"id":733,"description":"Itamar Marcus, PMW Director: \"One of the most serious extreme points is the definition of the conflict with Israel, the struggle with Israel, now, as a religious conflict, an Islamic conflict.\"","tagIds":["190","193","258","1035","1036","1038","1045","1164"],"thumbnail":"http://img.youtube.com/vi/s7wwFTQcM1k/mqdefault.jpg"},{"tagIds":["190","193","258","1035","1036","1038","1045","1164"],"id":729,"description":"\"In this report, Palestinian Media Watch presented to the Knesset education committee today, a report on eight new textbooks from the Palestinian educational system.\"","title":"Mabat Report on Palestinian Textbooks","authorId":[110],"author":[{"about":"","name":{"en":"channel 1","he":""},"id":110,"citeName":{"en":"Channel 1.","he":""}}],"indexId":"index2","lang":"en","date":{"type":"firestore/timestamp/1.0","seconds":1174348800,"nanoseconds":0},"news":false,"contentType":"Article","tags":[],"imageUrl":"http://img.youtube.com/vi/XOd5ZELPeIY/mqdefault.jpg","published":true,"content":"

\nChaim Yavin: “The Palestinians themselves are breeding a new generation of hatred towards Israel.”
\nPalestinian woman: “This is the Middle East, but Israel isn’t here. There is no Israel.”
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\nChaim Yavin: “Even for the optimists among us, with everything concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, it is hard to settle between the peace declarations from Ramallah with the anti-Jewish incitement and hatred which continues within the Palestinian educational system. Eli Nissan and Ohad Chemo report.”
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\nOhad Chemo (reporter): “Does Israel appear in your maps?”
\nFirst Palestinian woman: “Yes, of course.”
\nSecond Palestinian woman: “Israel? Palestine appears.”
\nFirst Palestinian woman: “No, Palestine appears.”
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\nOhad Chemo: “Do not let this mistake confuse you. In most Palestinian textbooks, Israel simply does not appear.”
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\nPalestinian woman: “This is the map of the Middle East.”
\nOhad Chemo: “But Israel doesn’t appear here.”
\nPalestinian woman: “Israel isn’t here. Good, this is what I’m telling you.”
\nOhad Chemo: “How do you want to be our neighbors if Israel isn’t here?”
\nPalestinian woman: “You want us to be your neighbors? But this land is our land.”
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\nOhad Chemo: “The Bethlehem school for girls spoke to us today in nationalistic terms. A territorial struggle between two peoples, on the area between Jordan and the sea, and on a damaged historical justification. But today there is someone who believes that the Palestinian education is changing.
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\nMK Michael Melchior (Chairman of education committee): “Education of incitement, of hatred, shifting the conflict from a national territorial conflict that can be solved, into a religious and existential conflict that cannot be solved.”
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\nOhad Chemo: “In this report, Palestinian Media Watch presented to the Knesset education committee today, a report on eight new textbooks from the Palestinian educational system. The image of the world [in those books] is difficult. Israel is referred to as “the Zionist enemy,” the conflict is religious, the peace process does not exist.”
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\nItamar Marcus: “The Palestinian youth is not given the possibility to accept Israel, because it is receiving this image of an ugly state, that it cannot accept, not from a national stance, and not from religious stance.”
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\nOhad Chemo: “For example, it is stated in a 12-grade textbook, that ‘Palestine’s war ended with a catastrophe that is unprecedented in history.’ Afterwards it states that ‘the Zionist gangs stole Palestine…and expelled its people in order to establish the State of Israel.’
\nCan the curriculum being taught in Palestinian schools be described as incitement? It depends on who you ask. What is considered many times in Israel as hate education, is considered here in the [Palestinian] territories as absolutely legitimate.”
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\nFirst Palestinian woman: “There is an Israeli song, I don’t know Hebrew in a sufficient level, but it talks about the borders of Israel from the Nile until the Euphrates River. Do you deny that?”
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\nSecond Palestinian woman: “As human beings, as Palestinians, our support is given to our people, to our land, to our Jerusalem, to our roots. Of course, we don’t recognize Israel.”","thumbnail":"http://img.youtube.com/vi/XOd5ZELPeIY/mqdefault.jpg"}]